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Original source: Carlos Esteller
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Is artificial intelligence pushing humanity to a point of no return? Norberto Cháves's vision of the technological mutation of the human species raises urgent questions about our future.
Norberto Cháves Warns of Artificial Intelligence's 'Suicidal Race' and the Mutation of Humanity
Norberto Cháves has expressed deep concern over the advance of artificial intelligence, describing it as a 'suicidal race' and highlighting the fear felt by the very scientists and developers driving it forward. He warns that the technology has spiraled out of control, pointing to its creators' alarm as an unmistakable sign of the gravity of the current situation.
Against this backdrop, Cháves revisits the hypothesis put forward by paleoanthropologist Juan Luis Arsuaga, also known as Carbonell, concerning the future mutation of humanity. According to this theory, the human species will not become extinct but will instead diversify into at least four subspecies by the end of this millennium, with technology playing a fundamental role in the modification of DNA. This mutation process, driven by the integration of technology into human biology, represents an unprecedented evolutionary shift that will redefine the very essence of human identity.
"This is madness, this is a suicidal race. It proves that the very creatives, intellectuals, and scientists generating this monster are absolutely terrified because it has slipped out of their hands. When those responsible are frightened, we should all be frightened — it means the situation is very serious indeed."
Norberto Cháves Criticizes the Loss of Collective Memory and the Subjectivity of Consumption
Norberto Cháves diagnoses an 'alienated mass' within contemporary society, defined by the absence of historical memory and a lack of any long-term vision for the future. This collective exists anchored in a perpetual present, whose only projection is the next purchase — fostering a precarious sense of self that affirms its identity exclusively through consumption, a mechanism that serves the system and perpetuates dependence on commodities.
In response to this landscape, Cháves advocates a stance of active resistance grounded in the preservation of intellectual autonomy. He underscores the importance of safeguarding those individuals who still cultivate critical thinking and clarity of mind, citing the reading of seminal works or social analysis journals as examples of opposition to cultural homogenization and the primitive psychology promoted by consumerism.
"The alienated mass has no memory of the past — no tradition, no folklore, nothing — and no future either. What it has is an immediate future: the next purchase."
Norberto Cháves Warns of Society's Forgotten Essentials and the Threat of Self-Sufficiency in the Consumer Age
Norberto Cháves reflects on how contemporary society, dominated by fear of the 'other' and a loneliness channeled into the marketplace, has abandoned the capacity to find joy in life's simple pleasures — such as watching a sunset. This forgetting of the essential, compounded by individualism and consumerism, generates a dependence on the market in which personal worth is sought through the acquisition of goods, as illustrated by the example of a young person who would rather discard worn sneakers than extend their life.
Within this framework, self-sufficiency is perceived as a threat, and proposals to eliminate physical money are interpreted as a strategy to eradicate individual autonomy. Cháves argues that this 'democratization' of economic control is, in reality, a form of ideological domination that, presented as progress, nullifies the individual's capacity to make decisions over their own assets and consolidates a system that promotes obedience through consumption.
"If a person sits down — as I can do, because I enjoy it — and settles into my patio to watch the clouds or the stars, I am not consuming. That may well become a crime tomorrow."
Norberto Cháves Diagnoses Cultural Decline in the Consumer and Mass Society
Norberto Cháves posits an inherent cultural decline in the consumer and mass society that emerged after World War II. He argues that these two concepts are intrinsically at odds with culture, which, at its core, implies community and communication. Society made up of individuals, by contrast, resembles a "cloud of dust made up of isolated individuals" whose loneliness and alienation are necessary conditions for fostering dependence on commodities and compulsive buying.
This social model dissolves communal bonds and communication — elements that, by generating mutual satisfaction without recourse to the market, naturally limit consumption. As a result, contemporary society is configured as an environment hostile to love, affection, and community, prioritizing the object over the subject and dismantling essential social ties. The capacity to recognize the presence of the "other" and establish genuine connection is diluted, giving way to superficial interaction centered on economic exchange.
"Love is anti-economic because it generates mutual satisfaction without recourse to the market. In other words, this is a society that is the enemy of love, the enemy of affection, the enemy of community."
Norberto Cháves Criticizes the Alienation of Victims and the Slow Struggle for Equity
Norberto Cháves, citing poet Sandro Penna, highlights the irony of being perceived as "different" when one in fact shares the same thoughts and pleasures as everyone else — a form of segregation that, in his view, is perpetuated by concepts such as "gay culture." He criticizes the persistence of inequality and the slow pace of achieving justice and equity, attributing it largely to the alienation of victims themselves, who at times support their oppressors or contribute to the perpetuation of discrimination.
Cháves's analysis points to a social pathology in which phenomena such as "homophobic homosexuals" or "sexist women" are not inventions but manifestations of deep-rooted alienation and servitude. This obsequiousness delays the process of rights reclamation by blurring the will for change and reinforcing existing power structures, preventing progress toward a more just and inclusive society.
"As long as victims continue to support their oppressors, this is going to take a very long time. There is a level of alienation, surrender, obsequiousness, and servitude that causes the process of reclaiming justice and equity to be delayed enormously."
Norberto Cháves Highlights the Value of Reading in Contrast to the Speed of Mass Media
Norberto Cháves recounts a personal anecdote on the Barcelona metro, where he observed a young man absorbed in reading a work by Goethe — an encounter he interpreted as a sign of belonging to a "tribe" that still values the written word. The moment, which "lifted his spirits," illustrates his conviction in the importance of deep reading, which allows for a "dialogue" with the author and their thought, an experience that stands in sharp contrast to the superficiality and speed imposed by mass media.
Cháves argues that, unlike reading — which invites reflection and a return to the text — mass media are defined by haste and anxiety, where the "story of the week" displaces the previous one without leaving a trace in collective memory. This dynamic fosters the "consumption of curiosities" rather than genuine information, undermining the purpose of knowledge and devaluing culture in the face of immediacy and sensationalism. Culture, in its essence, stands as an enemy of time, resisting the ephemerality imposed by the consumption model.
"The written word needs no defending because it defends itself. When you read, you scan, you go up and down, you go back, you build a dialogue with the writer and their thought that simply cannot be replicated in other media."
Norberto Cháves Champions Sexual Indifference in His Book "The Imagined Homosexuality"
Norberto Cháves presents his book "La homosexualidad imaginada: la vigencia y el ocaso de un tabú" (The Imagined Homosexuality: The Persistence and Decline of a Taboo), a work that delves into the values truly worth reclaiming around the taboo of homosexuality, moving beyond superficial notions or a so-called "culture of difference." Drawing on his own experience as an "absolute homosexual," Cháves challenges myths such as "homosexuality as culture" and the "myth of difference," advocating instead for "indifference" toward sexual orientation.
His central thesis is that sexual orientation does not define a person's identity; rather, it is one's ethics, the way one finds pleasure, and one's actions in intimacy that truly shape who we are. Cháves argues that the focus should not be placed on "with whom" love is practiced, but on "what" is done, defending the legitimacy of diverse paths to happiness so long as they cause no harm to others. This approach seeks to transcend segregating categories and normalize the homosexual experience within the broader spectrum of human relationships.
"What I champion is indifference — meaning that, like all human beings, the sex of my partner does not define me. What defines me is my ethics, the way I find pleasure. What I do in bed defines me more than who I do it with."
Norberto Cháves Slams Barcelona's Transformation into a "Tourist Theme Park"
Norberto Cháves has condemned the transformation of Barcelona into a "theme park" serving mass tourism, a shift he describes as having made life "unsustainable" for the city's residents. The change is especially stark in heavily saturated areas such as the Gothic Quarter, where he owns a home, and has rendered the city "deeply hostile," leaving long-term residents with the feeling that their living space has been taken from them.
Cháves extends his critique to the way in which the prioritization of tourism erodes the habitability and authenticity of urban life. He highlights the importance of having a personal retreat, citing his home in Predafeta — purchased more than 30 years ago — as a counterpoint to the growing dehumanization of major city centers. This phenomenon of "touristification" underscores the mounting tension between tourism-driven economic development and the right of permanent residents to their own city.
"Living in Barcelona — and with everything the world already knows about it — transformed into a theme park handed over to mass tourism, the situation has become unsustainable."
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