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Original source: El Cronista
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Can we fight tax evasion without hitting your wallet? The key lies in designing tools that distinguish daily purchases from large undeclared operations.
Cash Tax Targets Large Informal Transactions, Not Everyday Citizens
Economist Emmanuel Álvarez Agis clarified his proposed cash tax targets large business operations currently evading taxes, not everyday citizen transactions. He cited a material supplier withdrawing 28 million pesos in cash to pay a vendor without an invoice, thereby avoiding VAT, income tax, and the check tax. He stated the tax should "pinch" these types of tax-evading maneuvers, not a retiree withdrawing daily expenses.
The measure aims to discourage large-scale tax evasion, a primary driver of informality, rather than punishing end consumers. By making large cash use more expensive, it pushes businesses towards electronic payments, which automatically create traceability lacking today. Implementation would differentiate users and amounts to protect citizens with declared incomes and vulnerable sectors.
"That's where you need to make the shoe pinch, right? Not on the retiree taking out 50 grand for groceries, who instead of 50 grand, gets 45."
Uncompensated Tax Cuts Risk Country Like Macri's
Economist Emmanuel Álvarez Agis warned against eliminating distortive taxes, such as export duties or the check tax, without fiscal compensation. Such a move, he cautioned, would immediately hike country risk as markets would interpret it as a worsening fiscal deficit. He referenced Mauricio Macri's government, whose unfunded fiscal reform helped trigger a financial crisis. Álvarez Agis's comprehensive tax reform proposal, which includes a cash tax, seeks to prevent a similar outcome.
He also cited successful international examples of reducing informality, including Nordic countries that penalize cash use. Argentina, he argued, must tailor incentives to formalize its economy without destabilizing public finances. His key takeaway: any tax cut requires a compensatory measure to maintain market trust, a forceful lesson from Argentina's recent past.
"Eliminating the check tax will likely hike country risk that day. Markets will say: 'Hey, the fiscal deficit is rising'."
Unfunded Tax Cuts Led to Crises: Macri, Truss Examples
Economist Emmanuel Álvarez Agis cited failed fiscal reforms by Mauricio Macri (2017) and ex-UK Prime Minister Liz Truss, warning against uncompensated tax cuts. Both leaders reduced taxes without sustainable plans, provoking strong negative market reactions, increased fiscal deficits, and financial instability. Truss's UK experience was particularly stark: her tax cut announcement for the wealthy collapsed British bond values, proving even developed economies aren't immune to fiscal inconsistency.
This analysis highlights a fundamental contradiction in pro-market reforms: citizens ('the street') celebrate tax reductions, but financial markets ('the City') demand fiscal surpluses to guarantee debt repayment. Álvarez Agis recalled a London fund manager during the Truss crisis who admitted selling all British government bonds while celebrating his lower tax bill. For the economist, Argentina's fiscal reforms must resolve this tension to avoid past mistakes.
"I'll pay far less tax because she cut wealth tax, but I'm selling all my UK bonds because I don't know how she'll pay me."
Álvarez Agis to Caputo: 'Cut Taxes to Spur Growth'
Emmanuel Álvarez Agis criticized Economy Minister Luis Caputo's proposal to link the elimination of the check tax to 8% economic growth. The economist argued this reverses causality: tax cuts should trigger growth, not await it. He likened the proposal to 'I'll diet if I lose 10 kilos first,' emphasizing one cannot wait for growth to ease fiscal pressure that's already stifling it. The core problem, he stated, is that the formal 50% of the economy shoulders an enormous tax burden to offset the informal 50%.
The analysis contends that reducing overall tax pressure is essential to formalize informal economic actors, as current levels are unaffordable for many. He cited a restaurant paying a 'crazy' 35% income tax, suggesting it should be 11% or 12%. However, he warned such a reform, if not offset by other revenue sources, would immediately increase country risk, highlighting the complex balance economic policy must manage.
"Cut taxes to trigger growth. Don't wait for growth to enable tax cuts, because then growth might never happen."
Fiscal Adjustment Nears Limits After Sweeping Cuts
Government economic adjustments are reaching their limits. Drastic cuts hit public works (now zero), provincial transfers, university budgets (halved), salaries (down 35%), and pensions (still 10% below prior levels). Where can further cuts be made? Eliminating "tax expenditures" (corporate exemptions) is effectively a tax hike. The government faces a dilemma: tax other sectors to sustain its surplus and fund lower distortionary taxes, or face significant political and economic fallout.
Álvarez Agis: Milei Accurately Read Social Mood for 'Impossible' Adjustment
Economist Emmanuel Álvarez Agis states President Javier Milei's key political skill was accurately reading the 'social thermometer.' Milei correctly anticipated Argentine society would support the largest fiscal adjustment in history, a move 99% of analysts deemed counterintuitive and doomed to fail. Most predicted violent social unrest, but Milei sensed citizens demanded drastic change, weary of inflation and the 'present state' narrative that didn't improve their daily lives. This accurate political reading, Agis says, was crucial to his success.
Agis contrasted this with Mauricio Macri's 2017 pension reform, which misjudged social sentiment, sparking a major political crisis. The lesson: reforms succeed when leaders anticipate society's direction by 'a meter and a half,' not more. Agis also noted Milei's belief that pension reform is impossible with 50% informal labor, stressing the need to tackle that issue first.
"Milei evidently had the social thermometer very well calibrated because he was the only one saying the biggest fiscal adjustment in human history was needed and society would support it."
Kirchnerist Pension Inclusion Necessary But Fiscally Unsustainable, Economist Says
Emmanuel Álvarez Agis argues the Kirchnerist pension inclusion policy, which extended retirement benefits to millions without sufficient contributions, was socially necessary to avert a 'horrific social crisis.' However, he criticized the lack of accompanying fiscal reform to ensure long-term sustainability. The economist calls this a classic example of 'partial equilibrium' thinking: it solved an immediate social problem but created a fiscal time bomb that 'blew up' years later.
To sustain Argentina's pension system, various ideologically distinct alternatives exist. Options range from 'right-wing' measures, like reducing pensions or raising the retirement age, to 'left-wing' solutions, such as capping maximum pensions and increasing taxes on high incomes. Agis concludes that increasing spending without offsetting revenue, or lowering taxes without cutting spending, is unsustainable. Both paths inevitably lead to crisis.
"That pension inclusion, which I agree with, should have come with a fiscal reform to make the system sustainable."
Álvarez Agis Skeptical Argentina Can Place Debt at Current Yields
Economist Emmanuel Álvarez Agis doubts Argentina can access debt markets, despite sovereign bonds yielding single digits on the short end. He argues secondary market yields don't guarantee demand for new issues. Months ago, with similar country risk, the government needed a "bonte" – a special bond with extra sweeteners – to attract investors, as "there was no market" at 9%. Agis says the situation hasn't changed. Argentina seeking a US Treasury guarantee for new debt proves voluntary market access remains closed. He believes this financial fragility should prompt the government to use political capital for "unpleasant but necessary" measures, like accumulating reserves. This could mean higher short-term inflation and a stronger dollar. Yet, he doubts President Milei will compromise his inflation target, set at zero by mid-next year.
"Market yields don't mean there's a market. At these rates, there's no market for Argentina."
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