Original source: Jason Bay
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Your face might be telling your team more than your words ever could. An executive coach's simple "duck" analogy reveals a hard truth about what leadership presence really means.
A Sales Leader's Key to Executive Presence: Be More Like a Duck
After being passed over for a key promotion, Aaron Rissler learned from an executive coach that his uncontrolled facial expressions were stressing out his team before he even spoke. The solution was an analogy: be like a duck, appearing calm and composed on the surface regardless of the frantic paddling happening underneath. This conscious management of his energy and non-verbal cues became a pivotal moment in his development.
The reality is that a leader’s unspoken energy sets the team's emotional tone. This shift from broadcasting internal stress to projecting intentional calm proved to be a massive unlock for Rissler, demonstrating that executive presence is a learnable skill rooted in self-awareness and emotional regulation, not just charisma.
"Do you know that you're stressing your team out? I haven't even said anything... You're wearing that message. They already know."
How Childhood Insecurity Became a Sales Leader's Cold Calling Superpower
Aaron Rissler traces his ability to build rapport on cold calls back to an unexpected source: his childhood. As a self-described nerdy and awkward kid seeking social acceptance, he became a quiet, intense observer of human behavior, learning to read subtle cues in tone and expression simply to fit in. This deeply ingrained skill became the foundation for his success in sales.
The most potent professional skills often come from surprising and deeply personal places. Rissler’s experience shows how a drive for connection, forged by youthful insecurity, translated directly into an ability to hear the unspoken nuance in a sales call and build genuine rapport over the phone.
"I wish I could say that it was from a really good place, but it actually comes back from me being a kid. I was really seeking social acceptance, and I wasn't. I was like this nerdy, awkward kid growing up."
Manager Describes Painful Lesson of Keeping Professional Distance from Team
As a new manager, Aaron Rissler fostered deep, sibling-like relationships with his direct reports, a style that backfired when he had to conduct layoffs. The process was personally devastating, forcing him to realise that getting too emotionally close made it impossible to execute difficult business decisions without incurring immense personal cost and sleepless nights.
The reality of leadership is that it demands a difficult balance between empathy and objectivity. Rissler learned to establish a necessary professional distance, not out of coldness, but to protect his own well-being and maintain his ability to act as a corporate steward making tough but necessary decisions.
"When I was a first-time manager, it was at this point we were siblings. That's how well I knew them. And then things that were very much out of my control where word from on high was like, 'Hey, we got to cut 20% of your sales organization.'"
Multiple Layoffs Taught an Executive He 'Wasn't That Important'
Aaron Rissler admits he was “garbage” at work-life balance for years, only to be laid off multiple times despite his relentless commitment. This repeated, humbling experience forced a blunt realisation that became a turning point in his career: “I’m just not that important.” Understanding that many outcomes were completely out of his hands allowed him to regain perspective.
This shift freed him to focus only on what he could control. Instead of letting issues fester, he learned to have difficult conversations early, preventing small problems from becoming late-night catastrophes and ultimately restoring his personal balance.
"I just had to get whacked... it really helped me understand like I'm just not that important and that there are things way out of my control."
Sales Manager Took Accountability for Product Issues by Putting CEO in Early Calls
Drawing on his operations background, Aaron Rissler refused to let his sales team take the blame for product-market fit issues. When he identified a messaging or value disconnect, he took personal accountability, proactively pulling internal stakeholders like product managers and even the CEO into early-stage sales calls to hear unfiltered feedback directly from the market.
The reality is that revenue is not just a sales problem; it's a company problem. By rejecting siloed thinking and reframing challenges as an "us thing," Rissler fostered a culture of shared responsibility that aligned the entire organisation on solving customer problems.
"They were like, 'You're going to unlock the revenue. This is a you thing, not a me thing.' And I was trying to really work across the aisle to say, 'No, this is an us thing.'"
A Sales Leader Argues Genuine Care Is a Prerequisite for High Performance
Aaron Rissler asserts that his success in sales is built on a foundation of genuine service and personal alignment. He makes a point to only work for companies whose products he truly believes in and would purchase himself. This principle allows him to approach sales from a place of authentic care, which is not only more effective but also more sustainable.
He noticed a direct correlation between his personal state—rested, healthy, and genuinely engaged—and his professional output. For Rissler, high performance isn't about faking it; it's about creating the conditions where enjoying the work and believing in the mission naturally leads to better results.
"I really tried my damnedest to align myself with products and teams and companies that I actually care about or would buy if I was that ICP."
To Influence Executives, You Must Prepare Them for Conversations You're Not In
Effective executive communication in sales requires removing yourself from the immediate outcome of the deal, according to Aaron Rissler. As a sales leader now privy to the internal conversations that reps never see, he understands the real work is influencing the discussions that happen after his team leaves the room. His focus shifted from merely closing a deal to ensuring it was good, sustainable business.
He now coaches his team to prepare prospects for those internal battles. The key is to arm champions to navigate conversations with skeptical colleagues, a stark contrast to his earlier days as a rep focused on pushing any deal across the finish line.
"We only have access to the one that they're having with us. In the conversations that folks are having in another room that you're not a part of, it's how do you influence that conversation?"
Why a 'Better Coach Than Player' Thrives in Sales Management
Aaron Rissler knew early on he would not be a top-tier, rainmaker sales rep, but he recognised his strength was in coaching others. He transitioned into management to focus on elevating B-players into A-players by providing the structure and playbooks they lacked. His goal was not to replicate superstars, but to build a consistently high-performing team.
This shift also required a change in perspective, expanding his time horizon from the daily grind of calls and meetings to a monthly and quarterly cadence. His focus became identifying the single most important skill to develop across the team over the next 30 days to drive results.
"I was never your 2x rep. I was never the 170% rep. But what I knew from a very early stage was that I could be a better coach than player."
Summarised from Jason Bay · 56:43. All credit belongs to the original creators. Outbound Squad Press summarises publicly available video content.
